CLOSED: Upgraded from 7.1 to 8, hda not showing up in Amahi Control Panel

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CLOSED: Upgraded from 7.1 to 8, hda not showing up in Amahi Control Panel

Postby tamorgen » Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:49 pm

Hi all,
I just upgraded to Amahi 8, and I'm having several issues.

1) Hda won't show up on my Amahi control panel. It says "Not updating" under status
2) The hda hostname won't resolve. I've tried pinging from the hda itself; no joy. I can access the settings from the browser by IP. I've tried the network troublshooting, but the page goes blank everytime I try to access it.
3) Greyhole isn't working. I'm sure I'll have to deal with this.

Any ideas? Where should I start?

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Re: Upgraded from 7.1 to 8, hda not showing up in Amahi Control Panel

Postby bigfoot65 » Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:39 pm

Recommend you start with [[Troubleshooting]] wiki page. There is an area for Amahi 8 that might be helpful.

BTW, please provide URL for the results of this command:

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fpaste --sysinfo
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Re: Upgraded from 7.1 to 8, hda not showing up in Amahi Control Panel

Postby tamorgen » Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:06 pm

Recommend you start with [[Troubleshooting]] wiki page. There is an area for Amahi 8 that might be helpful.

BTW, please provide URL for the results of this command:

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fpaste --sysinfo
I did start with the troubleshooting wiki page, as well as IRC. I can't get past "ping hda". I can ping websites from the CLI.

I've even gone so far as trying to reinstall with a new key. Still no luck.

http://ur1.ca/nszzv -> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/268245/44828114

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Re: Upgraded from 7.1 to 8, hda not showing up in Amahi Control Panel

Postby bigfoot65 » Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:18 pm

Were you running a Desktop version of Fedora 19 or used VNC? You mentioned you tried a reinstall with new code. What do you mean?

Did you check to see what IP address is currently assigned to your HDA? Is it the correct one? Also is the DHCP server currently being supported by your router or the HDA?
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Re: Upgraded from 7.1 to 8, hda not showing up in Amahi Control Panel

Postby tamorgen » Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:25 pm

Were you running a Desktop version of Fedora 19 or used VNC? You mentioned you tried a reinstall with new code. What do you mean?

Did you check to see what IP address is currently assigned to your HDA? Is it the correct one? Also is the DHCP server currently being supported by your router or the HDA?
I had Fedora Gnome desktop installed. By reinstall, I tried /usr/bin/hda-install CODE. This was actually by accident because after all the troubleshooting, I accidently hit the delete button on the control panel for my hda. There is no "Are you sure you want to do this"

Currently, my router is running DHCP and DNS. I've tried without it running as well. At the very top of the network troubleshooting page, it says not to turn of the router DHCP until everything is running. Well, it's not running properly.

Not sure where to go from here....

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Re: Upgraded from 7.1 to 8, hda not showing up in Amahi Control Panel

Postby bigfoot65 » Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:39 pm

That's the issue I believe. Gnome Desktop is not supported for Amahi Fedora 21. Did you uninstall apps as recommended?

The Upgrade path has only been tested with Fedora 19 Server without Gnome installed. I am speculating, but it's possible the combination of that along with you trying to reinstall Amahi 8 might have broken things. By deleting the profile and creating a new one, the connection between Amahi and your server is now broken.

As the Docs site indicated...
If your system is somewhat modified, it may not upgrade well.
Having Gnome Desktop installed is considered a modification. I would not recommend an upgrade unless you originally used the Express Disc install and did not install a Desktop.

I myself did a clean install and migrated settings along with data. That was the safest and best path for moving to Amahi 8 in my opinion.

You can start checking log files in /var/log directory, but I am afraid you may not be able to recover from this upgrade. The removal of the profile and attempted reinstall I don't believe is going to turn out well.

Can you do a new install and recover your data? The upgrade is not reversible.
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Re: Upgraded from 7.1 to 8, hda not showing up in Amahi Control Panel

Postby tamorgen » Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:46 pm

Can you do a new install and recover your data? The upgrade is not reversible.
That wouldn't be my preffered method, but so long as I don't loose my data, I'm willing to give it a shot.

How did you perform a clean install without loosing data?

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Re: Upgraded from 7.1 to 8, hda not showing up in Amahi Control Panel

Postby bigfoot65 » Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:51 pm

BTW, did you see the Amahi 8 Troubleshooting page? I presume you did, but just checking.

The only way to do a reinstall without losing data is to back up all data on a drive separate from the OS. If using Greyhole, disconnect all those drives and only have the OS drive active when doing the reinstall. You will need to follow the Amahi 8 Install starting with a fresh install of Fedora 21 Server and then Amahi 8.

This can be quite complicated, but using the HDA OS Migration Guide might help make it less painful and ensure you capture all the pertinent settings that you will have to manually transfer to the new install.

Sorry, but there is no easy path to recover from this one I don't believe.
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Re: Upgraded from 7.1 to 8, hda not showing up in Amahi Control Panel

Postby tamorgen » Thu Sep 17, 2015 4:53 am

BTW, did you see the Amahi 8 Troubleshooting page? I presume you did, but just checking.

The only way to do a reinstall without losing data is to back up all data on a drive separate from the OS. If using Greyhole, disconnect all those drives and only have the OS drive active when doing the reinstall. You will need to follow the Amahi 8 Install starting with a fresh install of Fedora 21 Server and then Amahi 8.

This can be quite complicated, but using the HDA OS Migration Guide might help make it less painful and ensure you capture all the pertinent settings that you will have to manually transfer to the new install.

Sorry, but there is no easy path to recover from this one I don't believe.
Thanks for your help so far. I downloaded the Full Fedora 21 install ISO last night before bed, and burned the ISO to a DVD. I tried the USB method, but I didn't have any success. Fedora even mentions that some USB methods are not always successful.

Now I'm at a irritating point. It seems that with Fedora 21, you need to have a GPT formatted HDD for UEFI. With Fedora 19, even though my system is UEFI, I don't believe it formatted it as GPT (is there a way to check).

I did an FDISK of my system before I rebooted. I haven't deleted anything yet. I am hoping to do this without wiping the boot drive (there is data on one partition), but that may be unavoidable. I'm going to make a backup of that partition before I proceed

Here is my output of fdisk -list (just for my first drive, the rest are just in the pool)

Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type
/dev/sda1 * 2048 1026047 1024000 500M 83 Linux
/dev/sda2 1026048 33794047 32768000 15.6G 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda3 33794048 238594047 204800000 97.7G 83 Linux
/dev/sda4 238594048 3907028991 3668434944 1.7T 83 Linux

Fedora 21 install does see all the partitions in Custom Partitioning, but the mounting see's them all as ext3 & ext4, which I'm assuming is not GPT. I'm guessing there isn't an easy way to migrate the drive to GPT.

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Re: Upgraded from 7.1 to 8, hda not showing up in Amahi Control Panel

Postby bigfoot65 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:46 pm

I am hoping to do this without wiping the boot drive (there is data on one partition), but that may be unavoidable.
Quite honestly I would recommend you not even try to leave data on the OS drive. Back it up and wipe the entire drive when installing Fedora 21 per the instructions.

As for the GPT, may need to do some research on this one. Have you searched the internet regarding Fedora support? It' may just be some packaged need installed for it to work.
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