Questions about installing

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Questions about installing

Postby milo7 » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:59 am

Hi,

few questions about migrating to amahi.

Got a Windows Server running with a total of 8 2 TB disks and a system disk with 500 GB, which i want to switch to amahi.
(config: Server, AVM Fritzbox 7270 as router and DECT, WLAN, 2 win and 1 mac clients to backup)

First, do I get the 32 or the 64 bit ubuntu to install, or the server ?

Second, is it possible to install the ubuntu / amahi system to the 500 GB disk and leave the others untouched?
Like installing win on the active primary system disk and the others show up later.
Don't want to make any change to the existing file systems on the storage disks...

Third, can I easily acces the system later on from my desktop?
Always accessing the server through remote desktop.

Thanks a lot for newbie hints ;)

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Re: Questions about installing

Postby bigfoot65 » Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:48 am

First, do I get the 32 or the 64 bit ubuntu to install, or the server ?
If it is a 64-bit system, use 64-bit.
Second, is it possible to install the ubuntu / amahi system to the 500 GB disk and leave the others untouched?
Like installing win on the active primary system disk and the others show up later.
Don't want to make any change to the existing file systems on the storage disks...
Yes and we recommend this approach. Best to disconnect all drives but the one you intend to install Ubuntu and Amahi on. Then once everything is setup and complete, you can reconnect the drives and mount them using hda-diskmount script as detailed in the wiki.

http://wiki.amahi.org/index.php/Greyhole
Third, can I easily acces the system later on from my desktop?
Always accessing the server through remote desktop.
You have a few options for accessing the server. You can use remote desktop, but many choose to use VNC and SSH. You can install SSH via the Amahi app

http://www.amahi.org/apps/openssh

and VNC currently is done via a tutorial in the wiki. We have a VNC app for Fedora and working to update it for Ubuntu. For now, though the tutorial is your only option.

http://wiki.amahi.org/index.php/Install ... rver_12.04

If you really want to continue to use remote desktop, you will need to search the internet for setup instructions. We do not have a tutorial yet for that one. If you would like to make one though, we would greatly appreciate it.

Hope this answers your questions. If you need more help, please let us know.
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Re: Questions about installing

Postby milo7 » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:27 am

If it is a 64-bit system, use 64-bit.
thanks a lot for your answers, guess there's still a lot I can read :)

would you recommend the 64 bit server or the 64 bit ubuntu? my win server was also 64 bit

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Re: Questions about installing

Postby bigfoot65 » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:50 am

Depends on your need. If you want an extra desktop, do the 64-bit Ubuntu Desktop. If you desire headless, then make it 64-bit Ubuntu Server.

I like the desktop version as it gives me an extra desktop and sometimes troubleshooting problems is easier being in a GUI on the actual HDA.
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Re: Questions about installing

Postby milo7 » Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:51 am

Thanks alot Bigfoot,

got the 64 bit ubuntu installed, set up amahi :D , now configurating... :roll:

Where do I find my root password? All the passwords I used don't fit...
Trying to set up VNC, without one click app.

BTW, the amahi icons on the desktop did not appear, where can I find them?

Thanks for answers

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Re: Questions about installing

Postby bigfoot65 » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:13 pm

Ubuntu uses sudo rather than root.

If you want to become root user in terminal, you would enter:

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sudo su -
Then enter your first user password. You can do most things via sudo though by entering:

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sudo command
Again, entering the first user password.
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Re: Questions about installing

Postby milo7 » Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:09 pm

sudo su -
that's it, always tried it without "sudo" only su -

At least I am in the root now... tried to install the vnc -> going to give it another try tomorrow.
The SSH app is still alpha and not available, as far as I can see.

Can log in through myname.yourhda.com from my windows computer and have acces to my files on the hda. that's enough for today 8-)

Two more questions, I bought an app, where can I find it, in order to install it? Bought it through the app-section at amahi.org...

As far as I have seen almost everything is done through the browser and / or terminal. Didn't find any program files folder where the programs are in.
Is there any one? Where can I find it?

Thanks again for your quick help, excellent (there's no :thumbsup: smily)

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Re: Questions about installing

Postby bigfoot65 » Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:15 pm

The SSH app is still alpha and not available, as far as I can see.
Not true, both are LIVE for Ubuntu.

http://www.amahi.org/apps/openssh

http://www.amahi.org/apps/dropbear
Two more questions, I bought an app, where can I find it, in order to install it? Bought it through the app-section at amahi.org...
When you purchase apps, they will appear in the HDA dashboard Apps section. If you don't see them initially, refresh that tab and they should appear.
As far as I have seen almost everything is done through the browser and / or terminal.
That is correct, all things are done on the HDA.
Didn't find any program files folder where the programs are in.
Is there any one? Where can I find it?
All web apps are installed in /var/hda/web-apps on the HDA. Some programs may be installed in other areas, but most are here. If you are new to Linux, recommend you be cautious with what you do manually.

Glad we could help.
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Re: Questions about installing

Postby milo7 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:08 am

Hi,

another question. On the amahi machine I got a few hdd's formatted with ntfs and full of data.
I noticed that I can mount them and then have access through my windows explorer on the win machine.
Also read now that it can be done on every restart with:
chkconfig nfs on
service nfs start
in the terminal, so I don't have to do it manually.

http://wiki.amahi.org/index.php/NFS

Now my concern: on the amahi main page I can define the shares. By typing in the directory of the volume I want to share I guess that it will be shared.
Made a test share with a newly created folder (created it on the shares page) and deleted it later on. It says during the deletion that all files in the directory will be deleted. Of course that's what I don't want if I share my files.


Is there a workaround to share it without deleting the files by deleting the shares? Or did I get something wrong? Or do I just have to mount it in ubuntu and do the shares on ubuntu?
After working almost 15 years with windows it's a little tricky for me to switch to linux.. :?

Just want to use the machine as a reliable NAS, nothing else.

Thanks again for hints

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Re: Questions about installing

Postby bigfoot65 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:57 am

You would be best not using NFS. When you typically delete a share, it will not remove the files. Might be different using NFS.

You can mount NTFS formatted drives in Linux and then set up shares to access the drive or parts of the drive via Windows. In my opinion, that is the best method and the one most use in my opinion.

There are some depends that may need to be installed though for Linux to read the NTFS format. You will find them listed on the wiki page "Adding a second hard drive to your HDA"

http://wiki.amahi.org/index.php/Adding_ ... o_your_HDA

I did that in the past and it worked well. I was also able to use Greyhole with them as well. NFS is an option, but unless you are an advanced Linux user I would discourage it.
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