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Greetings

Postby sirtuxalot » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:48 am

I have been around Linux for quite some time and I discovered Amahi a couple years ago or so. I recently installed Amahi running on top of Fedora 14 thru VirtualBox and it is running fine for my virtual network. I am playing with it to learn the basics, its setup, and to decide which apps I would like when I get around to building one for my real network.

I recently saw on Facebook that there is a MineCraft server app that is currently alpha and I recently found a wiki for installing McMyAdmin which reads as though it installs the latest MineCraft server. Are these two separate methods of installing a MineCraft server on a Amahi box, or I missing something. I would definitely like to have on a MineCraft server my box, but I am curious as to which method would be the best to use.

For the builders and testers, cudos to building a very good product...maybe someday I would join one or both of those categories. :D

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Re: Greetings

Postby bigfoot65 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:56 am

Hello,

The wiki should get you up and running, however there may be some custom configuration required. The app is still being developed in Amahi, so not ready for testing just yet.

Amahi Alpha apps are not publicly available until they move to beta. Then its only for a select group of users. If you are game for trying, I would recommend you start with the wiki. Depending on how that works, you might be able to help us polish the Amahi app version.

Thanks for the kudos. We try our best to make the Amahi experience a pleasant one.
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Re: Greetings

Postby sirtuxalot » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:50 pm

You are quite welcome, from what I have seen so far of the Amahi project it seems quite polished.

Anyway, I will definitely try out the wiki on my virtual amahi server to learn the process so I can transfer those lessons to my physical server once I get the chance to build it. I am waiting to build it until after I acquire my first civilian job since retiring in November from the USAF, which I saw you did as well. What ever I learn I will definitely pass on to whoever needs it once it is complete.

The one drawback I already see is that testing my Amahi MC server may be difficult since the video options necessary for the game are not available for the virtual environment, or at least I don't believe they do. Worst case scenario, the install, setup, and execution of the server process are likely the only parts i will be able to test.

More to follow.
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Re: Greetings

Postby bigfoot65 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:43 am

Awesome. Congratulations on your retirement and thanks for serving! I did 21 years myself and retired in 2006. I miss it sometimes, but definitely don't miss all the hours and politics. Nice to do my 40 hours a week and go home.

You are probably correct about the video requirements. Most VMs cannot support the high end graphics required by some software. I do know that I tried MineCraft in a VM and it works. I was able to mess around with it, but did not do much.

Good luck with the job search and welcome aboard!
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Re: Greetings

Postby sirtuxalot » Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:19 am

Okay, I have some questions.

The first is more about the install instructions of Fedora/Amahi itself. I didn't catch this during my install, but after thinking about it, I decided something just wasn't right. During Step 2: Installing Fedora it mentions "unselecting Graphical Desktop", but the rest of the instructions all use the the gnome desktop for install and setup of Amahi. Is there a way to install Amahi using the "minimal install" or "webserver install". Now I can understand that setting the default runlevel to 3 definitely minimizes memory used saving the rest for Amahi and other related services.

For the second is about McMyAdmin/Minecraft itself...I did the install as described on the wiki, but starting the servers with the start.sh script has yet to work. The only way I have seen it work even semi smoothly is changing to the /var/hda/web-apps/mcmyadmin directory, that is because I noticed that wherever I launch the McMyAdmin.exe from apparently get looked at to see if the files exist for the server and if they are not found downloads the server and puts them there. I had that happen in my home directory and the /etc/init.d directory. Then I execute it manually by typing "mono McMyAdmin.exe". Notice the lack of a "&"...it always seems to die right after execution if I try to background the process. This has also been consistent. Has anyone else had these issues. So, is there an arguement or something that specifies where the files will be kept, /var/hda/web-apps/mcmyadmin...or wherever? And does the McMyAdmin.exe have to run in the foreground?

I know...its a lot to chew on, but that is what I am seeing.
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Re: Greetings

Postby bigfoot65 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:46 am

Step 2: Installing Fedora it mentions "unselecting Graphical Desktop", but the rest of the instructions all use the the gnome desktop for install and setup of Amahi. Is there a way to install Amahi using the "minimal install" or "webserver install".
You can use minimal install if you want headless. Obviously you have to select something. I recommend leaving Graphical Desktop, but I have my HDA hooked in with a KVM switch as well.
For the second is about McMyAdmin/Minecraft itself...I did the install as described on the wiki, but starting the servers with the start.sh script has yet to work. The only way I have seen it work even semi smoothly is changing to the /var/hda/web-apps/mcmyadmin directory, that is because I noticed that wherever I launch the McMyAdmin.exe from apparently get looked at to see if the files exist for the server and if they are not found downloads the server and puts them there. I had that happen in my home directory and the /etc/init.d directory. Then I execute it manually by typing "mono McMyAdmin.exe". Notice the lack of a "&"...it always seems to die right after execution if I try to background the process. This has also been consistent. Has anyone else had these issues. So, is there an arguement or something that specifies where the files will be kept, /var/hda/web-apps/mcmyadmin...or wherever? And does the McMyAdmin.exe have to run in the foreground?
As for this one, I will have to test it myself to be of any assistance. The person who contributed it said it worked for him. Now maybe things have changed over time, but nevertheless I will see how it works for me.
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Re: Greetings

Postby sirtuxalot » Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:10 pm

My intent isn't to go headless as my physical server will likely be connected to a TV via a VGA cable or RCA composite cable...which ever works. :) It will be sitting off the same router as my PS3 and Xbox, so that PS3 Media Manager is looking interesting to me as well.

As far as MC and MMA, I will keep playing with them and see what I can come up with...

Now I get this error when launching MC/MMA either through the start.sh script or manually "mono McMyAdmin.exe"...

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Unhandled Exception: System.ArgumentNullException: Argument cannot be null. Parameter name: format at System.String.FormatHelper (System.Text.StringBuilder result, IFormatProvid er provider, System.String format, System.Object[] args) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at System.String.Format (IFormatProvider provider, System.String format, Syste m.Object[] args) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at System.String.Format (System.String format, System.Object arg0) [0x00000] i n <filename unknown>:0 at System.TermInfoDriver.set_BackgroundColor (ConsoleColor value) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at System.ConsoleDriver.set_BackgroundColor (ConsoleColor value) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at System.Console.set_BackgroundColor (ConsoleColor value) [0x00000] in <filen ame unknown>:0 at a1.a (System.String[] A_0) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
Something tells me I am going the wrong direction on this. :)
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Re: Greetings

Postby bigfoot65 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:38 pm

Did you do the Graphical Desktop install? If not, maybe that is part of the issue. I will try and test it tonight. I have had it running before, but its been a while.

I use VMs to test with using Graphic Desktop of course.
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Re: Greetings

Postby sirtuxalot » Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:51 pm

Yes, this was a graphical install, however under runlevel 3...however, I switched to runlevel 5 logged in as my normal user, opened a terminal changed to root and attempted to launch it in multiple methods all with the same recently stated results. As I said, I seem to be going backwords. :) At least under my original install I get the servers running but not able to actually test the game itself.
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Re: Greetings

Postby bigfoot65 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:37 pm

Just tried the install and its working for me. I did make a few tweaks to the wiki, but the server is running. Web admin access is via http://localhost:8080.
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